Safe Haven | Preservation of Capital
"Everything should be made as simple as
possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein
HOME ARCHIVES FORUMS SEARCH SITE MAP ABOUT US

<<- Previous Message Next Message ->>
<- Previous In Thread
From:"EarlA"
Received:05/08/2004 10:26 PM
Subject:Re: Fw: Part 2 The economy and the election.

ΓΏ
Good pieces Bud!
 
Earl
----- Original Message -----
From: Bud Conrad
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 10:50 AM
Subject: [Longwaves Forum]Fw: Part 2 The economy and the election.

 
THE ECONOMY
The economy is doing well, but not that well. The trajectory here starts with interest rates, and now we all agree that they are headed higher. The investment community seems to be waiting for the Fed to act, rather than making the decision now on the probable future. Rate are going up because inflation is here.  Oil is at $40 / bbl. Even the government, who massages the numbers down, has the CPI and PPI at 7% last month. That means the real interest rate is negative. The budget deficit is huge and that leads to printing money to pay for the government expenditures. We bounced off 45 year lows a year ago, and this trend will continue. Once started, the convexity guys, who have to manage portfolios of bonds and mortgages, have to reposition in a huge derivative way. They make the trend continue and go farther than it would from other forces. The trend is now up and they will insure it continues.
 
Another weakness is the export of jobs. Not just the low paying manufacturing jobs, but now the higher paying technology jobs like IT, X ray reading, and engineering. They are not coming back because the difference in cost is as much as 10 times. The related figure of Commercial and Industrial Loans reveal that no one is investing in the US, largely because of the uncompetitive labor rates.
 
A big Achilles heal is that we expect foreign investment of $400B per year to balance our trade deficit. Foreigners, especially central banks, have shown a surprising willingness to continue to purchase US Treasuries ($10B last week in the Fed's Custody holdings). They have lost billions on currency exchange losses in the last two years, and will lose much more in bond prices as interest rates rise. If they stop, US interest rates will rise, and the dollar will weaken.
 
The problem with interest rate rising, is that stock P/E multiples collapse. This is what happened in the 1970s. The economy did relatively well, and stocks were flat. After inflation the return on stocks was negative. We are still at very high P/E levels. My prediction is that the economy and corporate earnings improve, but that stock prices stay nominally flat, and that inflation makes the real return negative in the decade ahead.
 
The higher interest rates usually take several months to negatively affect stocks. This would be bad timing for the election. The housing bubble may not burst by then, but a decrease in asset prices would be tough on consumer spending.
 
This is the traditionally weaker 6 months of the year (through October) for stocks. Jobs are every important to people, and will be modest in the next year. The point is that while the Iraq war is a negative for Bush, the economy is not likely to be particularly supportive either.
 
Bud

You are subscribed to the SafeHaven Longwaves Forum To Unsubscribe, send a blank email to with the word Unsubscribe in the subject line.

 

<<- Previous Message Next Message ->>
<- Previous In Thread

 

« Opinions expressed at SafeHaven Forums are those of the individual authors and do not necessarily represent the opinion of SafeHaven, its management, or the forum moderators. »

 
 
Top of Page
Read ourDISCLAIMER
HOME | ARCHIVES | FORUMS | SEARCH | SITE MAP
ABOUT US | LINKS | CONTACT US
Copyright © 2000-2009 - SAFEHAVEN.com
Server Admin by DIGITAL ADMIN
SafeHaven Web Site FEEDS
Get RSS Feeds